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Someone please tell Seraphim that the first rider on a white horse is "The Helper".
The Joseph antitype.
Why?
Genesis 49
1 Later on Jacob called his sons and said: “Gather yourselves together that I may tell YOU what will happen to YOU in the final part of the days.
22 “Offshoot of a fruit-bearing tree, Joseph is the offshoot of a fruit-bearing tree by the fountain, that propels its branches up over a wall. 23 But the archers kept harassing him and shot at him and kept harboring animosity against him. 24 And yet his bow was dwelling in a permanent place, and the strength of his hands was supple. From the hands of the powerful one of Jacob, from there is the shepherd, the stone of Israel. 25 He is from the God of your father, and he will help you; and he is with the Almighty, and he will bless you with the blessings of the heavens above, with the blessings of the watery deep lying down below, with the blessings of the breasts and womb. 26 The blessings of your father will indeed be superior to the blessings of the eternal mountains, to the ornament of the indefinitely lasting hills. They will continue upon the head of Joseph, even upon the crown of the head of the one singled out from his brothers.
I hope this helped with a little help.
kat
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Robert King RK:
"What is logical is that Jesus' presence initiates the beginning pangs of distress due to the fact that the first order of business for the newly crowned Christ is ousting Satan and the demons from heaven. Jesus only manifests himself later towards the conclusion. "
Kat:
Jesus has already ousted Satan and the pangs of distress have been continuing throughout the entire 20th Century. Jesus Christs presence has already been manifested however, when I explained that to you and your board members you removed my posting privledges from your forum. You and my brothers threw me in the waterless pit. That the 20th Century was a very distressfull time is already well known. Once again here is the convincing evidence which manifests Jesus Christs presence: http://ablebodiedman.blogspot.com/
RK:
No. You are wrong. The Bible most definitely supports the teaching that Christ has a parousia that culminates with his complete unvieling.
Kat:
Agree, see my answer above. Oh, yes and then he will come also after the unveiling.
RK:
"Just because the Watchtower has the starting point of his parousia wrong does not negate the doctrine of an ongoing parousia. It is a case of your throwing out the baby with the dirty water."
Kat:
Robert, you just threw the baby out with the bath water.
RK:
The reason Chirst is depicted with a single crown in the first vision is because that is the start of his conquest, as the scripture says.
Kat:
There is a conquest that must be obtained in order for anointed ones to get their crown. The book of Revelation leaves no doubt in regard to this:
Revelation 3
20 Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into his [house] and take the evening meal with him and he with me. 21 To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’”
This conquest can be obtained by receiving help which indirectly comes from Jesus Christ through the helper. Some will treat this help with contempt. Just as Joseph always had the best interests of his brothers in mind, he was treated with scorn and contempt. Just as Amos said; "there would be a famine not for food" there would be a single point where the food would come from in the last days just as real food came from Egypt in the days of Joseph. That this food would be available is also a significant part of the book of Revelation:
Revelation 12
14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place; there is where she is fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent.
Some anointed ones are going to think that they don't need this food:
Revelation 3
17 Because you say: “I am rich and have acquired riches and do not need anything at all,” but you do not know you are miserable and pitiable and poor and blind and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined by fire that you may become rich, and white outer garments that you may become dressed and that the shame of your nakedness may not become manifested, and eyesalve to rub in your eyes that you may see.
RK:
After Christ has completed his conquest, which will involve exposing and destroying the man of lawlessness, Babylon the Great and the last king, at that point Jesus will have conquered all of his enemies and acquired complete control of the world. Fittingly, then he should be depicted with many diadems upon his crown.Kat:
Jesus Christ will expose the man of lawlessnes, Babylon the Great with; "the spirit of his mouth".
2 Thessalonians 2
8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence.
The spirit of his mouth is "the helper".
The scriptures indicate this:
John 16
12 “I have many things yet to say to YOU, but YOU are not able to bear them at present. 13 However, when that one (the helper) arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU the things coming. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to YOU. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares [it] to YOU.
The helper is the spirit of Jesus Christs mouth.
Robert, the helper has helped you many times and yet you do not see it. Buy some eyesalve to rub in your eyes.
Here is where "the helper" fed you with truths about the "man of lawlessness":
http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1747
Here is where the helper has helped you with truths about Babylon the Great
http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1592&pid=23232&st=22&#entry23235
The scripture in Genesis does say that Joseph would be singled out from his brothers and would help them. My motive for creating this blog is therefore not malicious. I really do hope it helps you. The blessing you could hope to receive are enormous. It means your crown.
Genesis 49:
25 He is from the God of your father, and he will help you; and he is with the Almighty, and he will bless you with the blessings of the heavens above, with the blessings of the watery deep lying down below, with the blessings of the breasts and womb.
Just like in ancient times however, the future day helper would be harrassed:
Genesis 49
23 But the archers kept harassing him and shot at him and kept harboring animosity against him.
Notice that they also have bows (his brothers).
Being censured on your forum is most definately a form of animosity.
I recommend that you start to listen to the truth so that; "the shame of your nakedness may not become manifested". (Re 3:18)
Kat
